Lines drawn in budget standoff at Statehouse

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STRATEGIZING: House Minority Leader Don Turner, R-Milton, reviews special session strategy with his Republican caucus.

MONTPELIER, Vt. — The special session regarding an anticipated budget veto by Gov. Phil Scott began Wednesday at the Statehouse, and Democrats, Republicans and the administration put competing proposals forward in what could be a lengthy negotiations battle.

At the early morning meeting of the Republican caucus, House Minority Leader Don Turner, R-Milton, affirmed his support Scott’s position of rejecting any new taxes or fees proposed by lawmakers. He encouraged all caucus members, especially those who previously voted for the budget, to vote this time to sustain a governor’s veto.

“We do not want to raise taxes,” Turner said. “I think we’re behind the governor on that. So I want to make sure that we’re clear that when I stand up before reporters, that I don’t have to in the back of my mind worry about people changing their minds.”

At a press conference later in the afternoon, Turner and Rep. Scott Beck, R-St. Johnsbury, presented an alternative plan from that of the administration. The plan would not raise taxes, same as the governor’s plan, but its approach would differ.

“Our plan is let’s use that unexpected revenue for one year and then repay that with the tax capacity opened up by the Act 46 incentives. And for next year let’s give clear direction to the school districts on what has to happen as far as spending, so that when we come back they are hitting our targets for FY 2020,” Turner said.

Turner said there is $14 million that won’t be collected from property owners in districts that have merged. He said that number will go down, and over the following few years there will be new tax capacity.

“We want to use that tax capacity to repay the $34 million,” he said.

Turner explained that his hope is to put together a mix of the governor’s ideas and ones that have passed the Legislature, so as to gain support from lawmakers.

“We don’t support using one-time money for ongoing expenditures,” he said. “This doesn’t do that. It takes one-time money and pays off a one-time liability.”

Earlier, the governor’s finance commissioner, Adam Greshin, presented the administration proposal to the Republican caucus.

“The plan is really going to do two things,” he said. “First, it’s going to use part of a large pool of unanticipated revenue to hold property tax rates at the levels they are today. … The second thing we are going to do is use that investment from the general fund to catalyze a long-term plan for the education fund that will allow stable property tax rates for up to five years and generate significant long-term savings.”

According to the administration’s plan, these long-term savings can be obtained by transitioning to a statewide health care plan for school employees, reforming special education spending models, reducing the excess spending penalty threshold for school budgets, increasing the student-to-staff ratio, property tax adjustments and more.

Greshen added  it’s difficult for him to imagine contemplating a tax increase when Vermont has brought in $160 million in additional revenue this year.

Also during the afternoon, House Majority Leader Mitzi Johnson, D-South Hero, and Senate President Pro Tem Tim Ashe, D/P-Chittenden, conducted a press conference outlining their talking points for the budget discussions.

For Ashe and Johnson, a sticking point is the proposed use of one-time funds to pay down the tax rate for this year. The administration maintains that this money would be paid back over a five-year period, a view broadly dismissed by Democrats and Progressives.

“We have already used some one-time funds to help fill reserves that were raided last year,” Johnson said. “I think that is fiscally incredibly irresponsible and it sets us up for another showdown next year.”

Ashe echoed that sentiment.

“We have an education funding system that works when people feel the consequences of their votes,” he said. “So a local school district votes to increase spending, their taxes go up as a result, they face the consequences of their votes.

“Using all this one-time money to protect them from that means that you are losing a cost-containment measure, which is people feeling the consequences of the level of increased spending.”

Michael Bielawski is a reporter for True North Reports. Send him news tips at and follow him on Twitter @TrueNorthMikeB.

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5 thoughts on “Lines drawn in budget standoff at Statehouse

  1. Ashe says:

    “We have an education funding system that works when people feel the consequences of their votes,” he said. “So a local school district votes to increase spending, their taxes go up as a result, they face the consequences of their votes.”

    Well the Boston Fed clearly doesn’t think you are anywhere in the ball park here: “However, very generous programs impose
    higher costs on state government. In addition, broadly available property tax relief
    can shield taxpayers from the cost of expanded services, contributing to overspending. In
    Vermont, middle-income households may be eligible for extraordinarily generous benefits.”

    He flip flopped on the family leave, at first saying it was regressive now he all in … the guy is a joke.

  2. “We have an education funding system that works when people feel the consequences of their votes”, said Ashe.
    When the consequences of our votes result in uneducated, over coddled students pressing for a socialist state (socialism and communism being nothing they know about or understand) and the schools capitulate to and raise the Black Lives Matter flag, our taxes should DROP! The teachers, the schools are wasting our money.

  3. Did Mr.governor think that his new found friends of the Left would roll over for him just because he lied and sold out the people of Vermont,perhaps with this parting of ways with his new found friends won’t be getting out the vote in his reelection and neither will a large majority of the people he sold out.

  4. No New Taxes, why is that so hard to understand for our legislators other than the D/P they have by their names?

    The Republicans can have the best plan out there, but the dynamic duo of Ashe and Johnson and the rest of their gaggle of fools will not pass it. If they didn’t think of it they won’t approve
    it, as it’s not in their agenda. They just don’t care.

    Wake up Vermont, it’s your Money & Debt!

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