Two doctors share different criticisms of Vermont’s coronavirus response

As Vermont continues to experience few issues with COVID-19 during the summer months, some doctors are beginning to question the state’s continued commitment to lockdown strategies.

Dr. Richard Warmann specializes in chiropractic care in East Montpelier and has over 34 years of experience in medicine. In an interview with True North, he said there’s too much fear and politics in Vermont’s response to the coronavirus, which has one person hospitalized in the state and no deaths in more than a month.

“With COVID, we don’t understand all its ramifications and that produces a lot of fear,” he said.  “I like to use the acronym for fear which is ‘false evidence appearing real,’ and the other acronym for fear is ‘failure to evaluate the appropriate response.’ And with COVID, I see a lot of that because you’ve got the changing of things and then you’ve got the political inter-reactions.”

Warmann said there have been strong negative impacts due to the shutdown of regular society.

“Basically what you are saying is normal social interaction in the past is now abnormal, and then what you are also saying is that person can hurt me so I have to stay away from that person,” he said. ” … Anything that produces stress or anxiety or distress in a human being will affect their immune system.”

Warmann is not the only doctor questioning Vermont’s response to the coronavirus.

Dr. Louis Meyers

Dr. Louis Meyers

Dr. Louis Meyers is running as a Democrat for Senate in Chittenden County. He said the restrictions on access to health care during the outbreak caused many patients with serious needs to delay treatments.

“I work at Rutland Regional, and as many hospitals were [empty], we were empty for three months,” he said. “Our hospital was empty. Our emergency room was practically empty. People were scared to come in. We know there were people with serious treatable medical conditions that were not getting care.”

According to Meyers, some women who were diagnosed with breast cancer had to postpone surgeries and other treatments because medical centers were instructed to prioritize coronavirus patients.

On Saturday, all Vermonters will have to wear masks in public places in which six feet of distance can’t be maintained. On this restriction, Warmann and Meyers have differing points of view.

“It’s more of a psychological concern that I have,” Warmann said. “Then all of a sudden you start making maskers and non-maskers, right? But the message is that that person over there can threaten my life, that that person is dangerous. If that permeates our culture, then we’re going to have big problems.”

Meyers, however, supports the governor’s mask mandate.

“While the masks might not be perfect, particularly if it’s not the right kind of mask and if it’s not worn properly, I think they are much more benefit than harm right now,” he said. “Right now we need to be using them as much as possible when we are in public.”

But businesses and families have suffered economically and personally due to government’s response to COVID-19. Meyers said the shutdown of small rural businesses may have gone too far.

“My feeling is that if we had to do it over again in Vermont I would have liked to have seen not a mandated closure of particularly some of the smaller businesses in the outlying areas,” he said. “I think that’s where a mandated mask comes in and physical distancing, because that’s basically what we’re doing now.”

Both doctors said that the pharmaceutical industry is having an influence on health policy and the direction of the country.

“They have a lot of money and weight, they are a big component of it,” Meyers said. He added that he’s concerned that the drug companies may charge too much for COVID-19 vaccines.

Warmann said the influence of the industry on health care is not good for the nation.

“The pharmaceutical industry has dominated our country to a very unhealthy extent,” he said.

Warmann expressed concern that available treatments of COVID are being overlooked because the medical establishment is focused solely on developing a vaccine.

“There are a lot of things out there to deal with this COVID thing, but they are not being addressed because people are looking for a vaccine,” he said. “And the chance of getting a good vaccine on this one is very, very, very low — extremely low.”

Warmann said one challenge with the vaccines is that viruses tend to mutate.

Meyers said he has hope that researchers will discover a good vaccine.

“I think we will have a vaccine. Whether it will be as effective as some, like the polio vaccine or the measles [vaccine], is questionable, because these are different viruses. But I do think it will be a big help,” he said.

Overall, Warmann said he’s concerned about the state’s approach.

“What does that tell you about our medical profession when the best thing they can tell you is to go hide in the basement and wear a mask?” he said. “If that’s not saying we’ve got a problem here, then I don’t know what does.”

Michael Bielawski is a reporter for True North. Send him news tips at and follow him on Twitter @TrueNorthMikeB.

Images courtesy of Public domain and Dr. Louis Meyers

11 thoughts on “Two doctors share different criticisms of Vermont’s coronavirus response

  1. COVID-19: Who Has the Intellectual and Moral High Ground?
    Those of us who have seen through the political power grab from the beginning.
    Thu Jul 30, 2020 Jack Kerwick 97

    “In 2020, something dramatically changed—and not for the better.

    The sloppy conventional rhetoric aside, it was most definitely not some “pandemic” that succeeded in undermining the economic, psychological, and communal well-being of hundreds of millions (possibly as high as 1.6 billion) of human beings around the planet.

    And it was not some virus—“the Virus”—that wreaked havoc in the United States.

    Rather, it is the mass hysteria over a virus fomented by materially, ideologically, and electorally-motivated political and media elites that accounts for the incalculable suffering of countless human beings.

    • – Profile of Fascist Fanatical Fraud – Deep State Droctor Tony Fauci:

      White Coat Supremacy and Cancel Culture
      Anthony Fauci’s record of attacking dissenters and suppressing the truth.
      Fri Jul 31, 2020 Lloyd Billingsley 26
      Long before he attained celebrity status with the White House Coronavirus Task Force, Dr. Anthony Fauci pioneered what is now called “cancel culture.” The victim was a medical scientists far more qualified than Fauci himself.

      There are a vast number of examples of Fauci’s fascism – his true specialty – in destroying other careers as they contradicted his ‘theories’ and posed a theat to his tyrannical takeover of scientific process for the Medical Industrial Complex – aaand does not hold immunologist credentials nor any evidence of advancing in this specialty.

  2. Not mentioned in this article by either doctor: The fact that the leading vaccine candidate is an RNA vaccine (gene-editing technology), a type never before used on human beings. Moderna, the biotech company rolling it out, has bypassed animal testing to speed delivery. Oh–and they have also never before brought a vaccine to market.

    Regardless of who “wins” the vaccine horse race that’s now underway, the real rubber-meets-road moment will be when legislatures start debating vaccine mandates–overturning your right to informed consent in the process. Wait for it.

  3. Power corrupts much? This mad scientist midget is being allowed to ride herd over We The People and our constitution:

    Fauci Recommends Wearing Goggles or Eye Shields to Protect against Coronavirus
    By Brittany Bernstein July 30, 2020 8:21 AM

    “Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease expert, suggested Wednesday that Americans consider wearing goggles or an eye shield in addition to face masks to ensure more complete protection against the coronavirus.

    “If you have goggles or an eye shield, you should use it,” he said in an interview with ABC News on Instagram Live Wednesday”

  4. “Meyers, however, supports the governor’s mask mandate.”

    “While the masks might not be perfect, particularly if it’s not the right kind of mask and if it’s not worn properly, I think they are much more benefit than harm right now,” he said. “Right now we need to be using them as much as possible when we are in public.”

    Soo masks might not work but wear them anyways? More unscientific blather from the ‘scientific’ community and a disgrace no matter who mandates an unproven remedy for a nonexistant crisis. Shame.

    Thank God for Drs like Warman who truly care for the health and wellbeing of patients and humans in general and willing to buck the unscientific conclusions promoted by those who should know better in the name of medical tyranny.

  5. Like it or not and I don’t particularly like it, it’s interesting to note that the more pervasive the mask wearing the less sickness occurs. Coincidence you say? I don’t believe in convenient coincidences, that’s why I wear a mask in public places.

    • Absolutely false statement. Entirely anecdotal, without any substance whatsoever. You’ll have to do better to earn Mao Scott’s money & praise.

    • You keep pushing that narrative, Mike. I’ll say it for a third time: Correlation does not prove causation. Infection decreases are more likely due to the virus weakening as it burns through the population, regardless of whether masks were mandated.

  6. Does anyone really know about this COVID 19 virus…..NO, but we are reeling
    from it’s devastation !!

    The only thing we all know is that this virus was released upon the World
    by the Chinese Communist Party ( CCP) be it a mistake or on purpose as
    a weapon ??

    The world needs to hold them accountable, we don’t need the CCP and neither
    do the people of China.

    Wall street and the Business Elite, love the cheap ” slave” labor that’s the bottom
    line profit over people…….. We the people just got burned by the CCP.

    Wake up people……………………..

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