Student-to-staff ratio in crosshairs at education forum

A few hundred of Vermont’s top education leaders met at Norwich University on Monday to discuss the direction of education amid a looming 9.4 cents property tax hike if the state maintains the status quo.

Addressing the group, Republican Gov. Phil Scott trained his focus on Vermont’s student-to-staff ratio, which is moving close to 3-to-1 as the student population in the state continues its slide to just above 76,000 pupils.

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RIGHT-SIZING: The discussion at Norwich University on Monday dealt in part with efficiencies and costs as they pertain to class sizes and governance.

Scott wants to cut enough staff to change the ratio to 5-to-1, saving taxpayers about $100  million. New Hampshire and some other New England states have a 6-to-1 ratio of students to staff.

“I think understanding the fiscal situation we’re in and understanding what the challenges are, (with) everyone hearing the same data, is important,” Scott told True North between the sessions. “I continue to go to different forums where many don’t realize that we have a student population that is in decline and that we are spending more to educate fewer students,” he said.

“We could (achieve a 5-to-1 ratio) through attrition, and we just have to be realistic about where we stand,” he said. “Again, we are educating about 30,000 fewer students then we were 25 years ago and that’s our challenge.”

One of the themes Scott emphasized throughout the day was a “cradle to career” education system that focuses on aligning education with jobs in the workplace.

Administrators from different parts of the state appeared to get the message that cuts would be necessary to manage the $80 million deficit in the education fund, according to the governor.

“Gov. Phil Scott has used the words efficiency and restructuring quite a bit,” said Ellen Thompson, director of learning design for the Essex Westford School District Central Office. “I think it’s important for us to take a step back and ask ourselves what those words mean, and how in every other industry those mean having fewer people and fewer buildings.”

One of the afternoon panel discussions focused on how Act 46 enables some consolidation of teachers, workers and buildings. Each of the panelists was involved in a successful merger of school districts.

Diane Kirson-Glitman, a member of the Mount Mansfield Modified Union School Board, agreed that the ratio is becoming a concern.

“It always strikes me when I see the number of students we have in our district,” she said. “I remember that is the same number as in my high school when I was growing up.”

She said education leaders need to reassess what it means to have a small class size. “I feel like small is not always a number, it’s a state of mind,” she said.

John Alberghini, superintendent of the Chittenden East Supervisory Union, said that additional costs such as longtime substitutes can be better absorbed with the pooled resources of a merged district.

“You are able to adjust and manage those costs without growing a deficit,” he said. “In small schools what would happen is that boards would be faced with ‘what are we going to do?’”

Other speakers and panels discussed topics from test scores to college and career readiness. Heather Bouchey of the Agency of Education talked about the importance of preparation for postsecondary education

“We don’t have enough skilled workers in the state to fill our existing jobs,” Bouchey said. “We hear this from industry, we hear this from individual employers, and we also hear this from folks who are recruiting for state government.”

Secretary of Administration Suzanne Young broke down the composition of state education spending, saying 60 percent comes from property tax receipts, 20 percent comes from the general fund, and 11 percent from sales and use tax.

Secretary of Human Services Al Gobeille emphasized continued state support for early education, including the pre-kindergarten voucher program that funds 10 hours per week for Vermont families.

Michael Bielawski is a reporter for True North Reports. Send him news tips at and follow him on Twitter @TrueNorthMikeB.

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2 thoughts on “Student-to-staff ratio in crosshairs at education forum

  1. Every time I have asked at school meeting why a school expense was necessary, why it could not be discussed/reduced, I was always told because that mandate, this mandate , ‘guidance’ from the bureaucracy, this law or that.

    The people who mandate all this stuff did NOT go to school under these mandates, and they are smart enough to now lead us. They did not go to classes with 10 or 15 students and two teachers, more likely 20 to 25 stydents. My first grade had 35 students – few who had gone to kindergarten, and a single teacher. We were expected to behave, to listen to study, do our work AND NO EXCUSES!

    That worked and still could if we had the will . The only thing that has changed is that education has become an industry, rather than a service. Unionized and bureaucratized.

    When we discussed mergers into larger school districts due to money saving efficiencies, I had the audacity to ask “which members of various offices would be eliminated, and who would losing their job. ” The pin-drop silence and pained looks on the district reps told the whole story.. No efficency expected, just larger layers of more bureaucracy!

  2. Centralized management of labor relations may seem efficient on its face, but rarely, if ever, addresses the infinitely nuanced employee/employer relationships that occur. The net effect will be a continued decrease in educational innovation; i.e. more of the same, just fewer players.

    I will predict today that if the denominator of the student/teacher ratio (i.e. the number of teachers) decreases by mandate, any theoretic savings will be offset in the future by salary increases demanded in the collective bargaining process. After all, equal pay for equal work, right. If teachers are forced to accommodate more students, they’ll demand higher salaries and benefits.

    What’s the alternative, you ask? Create educational governance that incentivizes innovation instead of persistently restricting, regulating and consolidating the process through government mandate.

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