Legislative lawyer tells lawmakers S.5 will not ‘bind’ future lawmakers on policy

Editor’s note: This article was updated at 4:11 p.m. Tuesday, May 2.

A member of the Office of Legislative Counsel on Thursday told the Vermont Senate Resources and Energy Committee that S.5 doesn’t “bind a future legislature” and allows “flexibility” in how future lawmakers choose to act on the policy.

S.5, which passed in the General Assembly, aims to reduce CO2 emissions in the thermal sector by imposing costs on fossil fuel dealers and using the money to subsidize the electrification and weatherization of homes and buildings across Vermont.

The committee voted unanimously to approve the bill’s recent changes made by House lawmakers, and the full Senate voted 20-10 on Thursday to pass S.5, sending it along to Gov. Phil Scott’s desk. Scott is expected to veto the legislation as he announced on Friday.

Among the governor’s chief concerns is a future “check back” provision in the bill that has confused lawmakers as to what will be required by a future legislature to enact the specifics of S.5.

“When I resisted the Legislature’s original approach to the bill, they inserted a ‘check back’ provision, saying it satisfied my concerns. It does not. Some claimed the bill is essentially a study. It is not,” Gov. Phil Scott said in a statement Friday.

“As recently as Thursday’s debate on the Senate floor,” Scott continued, “senators from both parties have called the check back in the bill contradictory and confusing. Even Democratic senators who voted for the bill acknowledged the check back is a ‘leap of faith,’ meaning a future Legislature could interpret the language much differently and only pass legislation that rubber stamps the rules and insulates themselves from the tough policy conversations, including details and costs. I believe it is irresponsible to move forward on a policy with such enormous consequences based on a ‘leap of faith.’”

Last Thursday, legislative lawyer Ellen Czajkowski said the bill, as written, doesn’t force future legislators to take up any specific measures. And if actions are taken, those must go through the traditional legislative process.

“The steps are there in a way that doesn’t bind a future legislature and require them to act in any way, it also allows the legislature flexibility in how they choose to act,” Czajkowski said. “So it does require an up or down vote on the rules, but it prohibits the legislation from moving forward without the future legislature [on board with] this.”

Sen. Chris Bray, D-Addison, chair of the committee, pressed Czajkowski for more clarity.

“So a future legislature will have to decide how to respond, if at all, but without the act [of legislation] the rule can only be developed and plan presented, but it cannot be implemented?”

Czajkowski answered in the affirmative, saying, “the rules that require the obligated parties to do something … cannot be implemented [without legislation].”

Sen. Mark MacDonald, D-Orange, pointed out that in prior years, the Legislature had passed resolutions on matters ranging from shutting down Vermont Yankee to improving sewer systems.

Czajkowski said such action didn’t necessarily work out well.

“The language I think dealing with Vermont Yankee was found to be problematic because that would be known as what is called a legislative veto,” she said, and reiterated that future legislation “needs to be enacted.”

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Michael Bielawski is a reporter for True North. Send him news tips at bielawski82@yahoo.com and follow him on Twitter @TrueNorthMikeB.

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5 thoughts on “Legislative lawyer tells lawmakers S.5 will not ‘bind’ future lawmakers on policy

  1. When lawfare meets lawfare. Reviewing a number of cases lately that are exposing a number of past events. One case against Ericsson filed by surviving members and injured parties in Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Afghanistan. Another good case involves 9/11. The current Missouri case involving Hunter Biden and his financials. As the past, current, and future State lawmakers fuddle around with their deceptive practices, documentation and communications may rise to bite them bigly. Fraud: “The statute of limitations for major fraud against the United States is 7 years from the date that the crime was committed. There are instances where the statute of limitations will be extended by the court after petition by the United States Attorney.” Being that the Vermont Legislature is colluding with Federal and foreign governments in their lawmaking, it would appear they’re nervous about the boomerangs. They very well should be as what is playing out in other courtrooms is setting case law and precendent for future cases. Not only the climate lie but the plandemic as well.

  2. never gonna happen in VT. I have been here 6 years this time, 4 years a previous time, and the gap between D to R has been ever widening – in favor of the D’s. MY VOTE DOES NOT AMOUNT TO ANYTHING. How do you vote out of office what cannot be voted out? I like in Hartland, every tax that is proposed passes, not ONE FAILS. How can that be??? I vote no ever time. Nothing changes.

    • Also, I can’t wait to leave this place, lovely as it is, wonderful neighbors that I have, but I will not die here with no ability to pay my heating costs, having nothing because I can’t afford propane and oil or wood (taxes put them out of my price range) and cannot afford to convert to heat pump – which doesn’t work below 10 or 15 degrees.
      What can men (women) do against such reckless hate?

  3. Ms. Czajkowski’s legal opinion carries as much weight as my opinion might. In fact, in Washington County Court (where by statute all GWSA litigation will occur) a judge will decide the validity of Ms. Czajkowski’s opinion. In 2025, when the very groups that wrote, lobbied for and virtue-signaled for will file their actions against the GWSA.
    It was designed that way in 2020- and it will work as planned.

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